. >> rose: does this creative power you have, creative energy, have an outlet anywhere other than film? you will argue criticism and i'll take that, but what else? i mean, do you create music? >> no. >> rose: you don't create that, no. >> i appreciate it. >> rose: yeah. and you make movie movie about it. and i use it in my movies and it's a huge -- >> rose: it is. it's a defining part of your-- >> i agree. but i don't make it. >> rose: so what does that make you a kind of agigator? requesthere is modern art going on, there is-- for lack of a better word-- hip-hop aesthetic, taking what you like that already existed expz putting it in your own work and the way you do it, the way you create it, something that didn't exist before. it took a while to be respected but that's where i've been coming from. >> rose: how do you use it? how does it add to the film? personally i think -- >> rose: it creates mood? it creates-- >> well, i think it's one of the most-- i try not to use music just as a case of pacing. that's how everybody else does it. they put innocuous music for the ticking clock. bu